EQUIFAX Data Breach
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But what gets me about this whole thing is this: These companies acquire our personal finance information, package it however they do and then sell it. Say, to a banking institution so that institution has the information available to help them decide if we get a loans. This is how they make money, and do they ask any of us if we approve? NO. Do they offer any of us a portion of the profit that THEY make by selling OUR information without OUR approval? NO.
Something needs to be done about this end of those operations.
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Moneyes wrote: A couple of things. First, if your credit score is 200, what exactly do you have to worry about?
Second, the first thing I thought about when I saw this topic was Dave Ramsey. He told his audience one time that he has had a credit score of 0 for 20 years. Whatever it is that he buys, he pay cash. You don't need credit or a credit score when you pay for everything in cash. Your credit score does not determine your wealth. It determines how easy it is to get a higher credit limit so you can be more in debt.
I know, few of us are in a situation where we can pay for everything in cash (bank debit is the same thing), but for most of us it shouldn't take over 10 years to get ourselves there.This story, to me at least, just underscores the importance of doing just that.
I think Dave Ramsey has a lot of great ideas, but I do not agree with his logic of 0 debt and no credit cards. It limits your leverage ability.
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Do you think anyone will sue successfully? Here's an article from Lazymanandmoney .com about filing a suit against Equifax in small claims court without needing an attorney.
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A thought I had the other day. We should all get a pin number we can change that's tied to our identity. Apply for a loan, apartment, credit card, or whatever requires a credit check, that pin needs to be verified. If we are compromised then we simply get a new pin by mail. There has to be a better way than what we are doing.
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Apparently this has changed due to public outcry. Victims of the attack can use the monitoring service without agreeing to binding arbitration. It's not recommended to use it though. I'm shocked that Equifax is still charging people for it. I don't mean to keep bumping this thread, but it's so disturbing to me.Wanderer wrote: Yes here is a quote from the terms of service:
"You will be forfeiting Your right to bring or participate in any class action (whether as a named plaintiff or a class member) or to share in any class action awards, including class claims where a class has not yet been certified, even if the facts and circumstances upon which the Claims are based already occurred or existed."
https://consumerist.com/2017/09/11/dont-take-equifax-up-on-its-credit-monitoring-offer/
https://consumerist.com/2017/09/15/sen-elizabeth-warren-introduces-bill-that-would-make-credit-freezes-free/#more-10289105
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Moneyes wrote:
JacksonM wrote: This is a ridiculous situation. The fact that they can't say if the information was encrypted (seriously?),
They think we're stupid if they expect us to believe that. If they were encrypted, the odds of this happening are slim. And if they were encrypted, it was outdated if a black hatter can come in and decypher it. No one wants to deal with a financial company that is so slipshod to where the criminals can outsmart them like this.
They can play stupid all they want. I will not deal with them for the simple fact that they are unprofessional.
I honestly think this will be the end of them. Its too large of a data breach to come back from.
Has anyone else used other credit monitoring services for protection?
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JacksonM wrote: This is a ridiculous situation. The fact that they can't say if the information was encrypted (seriously?),
They think we're stupid if they expect us to believe that. If they were encrypted, the odds of this happening are slim. And if they were encrypted, it was outdated if a black hatter can come in and decypher it. No one wants to deal with a financial company that is so slipshod to where the criminals can outsmart them like this.
They can play stupid all they want. I will not deal with them for the simple fact that they are unprofessional.
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JGibbs wrote:
Have you found a reputable company? I've been checking around, but it's hard to separate facts from hype. I've looked at LifeLock, but after reading the small print I'm giving it a pass. The commercials brag that if you're a client, they'll spend up to $1 million dollars to "hire lawyers, investigators, consultants and whatever else it takes to restore your name and help you recover the direct losses from the identity theft." Which sounds fantastic; however, there are so many exclusions and got'chas that it's pretty useless. They seem to have encryption problems too, and have been in trouble with the FTC more than once .FrankN wrote:
I am planning on getting credit monitoring services, but will not use Equifax because I plan to pursue action against them.
None of them have great reviews, but I am looking at AllClear ID. The important thing is you should definitely keep a close eye of your credit each month. If you notice anything, report it immediately.