To Close or Not to Close??
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I had a card closed without warning because I hadn't used in a couple of years. That was before eight years ago though. It didn't hurt my credit at all. Just disappeared all together.JacksonM wrote: Can it hurt your credit to not use an open card? I stopped using it because I opened a newer one with better benefits. The last posted payment was about a year ago. Should I be making occasional purchases with it?
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patse wrote: I was always told to close any cards that I don't use. Too much open credit is a bad thing, they say. I don't know how accurate this is though. I also heard that having long-term cards has a positive impact on your credit rating.
That would make sense in a logical world, but as we all know, the credit card universe is pretty screwed up. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me that closing accounts you don't use could negatively impact your credit, but that seems to be the thought process these days.
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I have seen this question asked with several different answers so I am unclear of what to believe. If you close an account does this hurt your score? I have a few credit card balances that I combined into one. Should I leave these open or should I close them? Or, once account is closed it doesn’t count towards your credit history? There is are so many factors that can help or hurt your score, sometimes this confuses me.
Your confusion is justified. There really is no simple one size fits all answer. I will give you some things to consider.
In the event a person has a thick credit bureau file (several bank cards, department store cards, installment loans and a mortgage etc) that goes back say 12 years or more with an average account age of six years or more with virtually no inquiries (one or two...) or bad marks at the credit bureaus along with utilization that is not excessive (likely under 10%) closing a credit card will have a minimum impact (score may drop a few points say 4 to 8 if any) and will bounce back in a few months.
For a person with a thin credit file (few cards, installment loans, mortgages etc), bad marks, heavy utilization (say more than 35%) the impact could be more points and not alot of old accounts or a long average age of accounts. Also, inquiries feed this so we need to NOT have many.
Note closing a good old account still may leave the account reporting "paid" and in good status for up to ten years when they generally fall off (note that some fall off sooner).
Frustration... building credit gets us lots of sub-prime cards with small limits in the beginning and terms that are not as favorable such as AF's, high Apr's etc. Then as we build a solid credit record we are able to secure prime loans and cards with favorable terms. We can't use all the cards with little limits and we want to loose them (close). Thus the quandary!
Our oldest account and average age of account still drives off of the cards early in our credit life cards. Now, a thick credit file generally has enough to carry an occassional account closing and over time we can weed our credit garden without taking too many point hits remembering as a thick file it will bounce back fairly quickly.
Some writers will say take the hits, get over it and move on. Others writers will say keep all accounts. A third line of thinking is go slowly in your weeding the credit garden. The real key is the unique credit file each of us has. I found for myself that too many cards is hard to maintain and I don't want all the credit I have but my old accounts are those from the sub-prime days. For me my utilization formula is 1.5% not 10% or 35% (played with my real credit file until I found the number). Many of my sub-prime cards are closed now and still report positive but I removed an installment loan of over ten years in age and I still have NOT made up the points it cost me from two years ago (Transunion).
So to sum all this up, it is really individual and I suggest a careful move if the credit file isn't very thick. In the early days we need all the friends we can get (credit reporting). The "age of accounts" and "average account age" info I was using the 12 years and 6 years came from a credit bureau service that showed some of the better break points for getting higher credit scores. This too is another debate between credit information service providers. In the end I find it all too vague. One rule that is not: "the man who has the gold rules" credit lendor.
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